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Executing script c:\internet\winsock\login.cmd.  Type <esc> to abort
SLIP DISABLED
ATZ
OK
ATDT ###-####
NO CARRIER
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First of all, thank you everyone for all your help... I got the address
problem fixed... but now, all of the sudden, I cannot dial.

I am using OS/2 {WIN/OS2} and for a day or so, everything worked fine, but
now when I make it "autodial", it gets messed up. The modem "OKs" the ATZ
command, but when ATDT ###-#### is issued, I get a "NO CARRIER"... is NO
CARRIER even a valid response for ATDT???? You need to DIAL to get a darn
carrier! Right?

Anyhow, here is the oddest part.

Under WINDOWS {plain old DOS boot} it works fine, but when I goto OS/2, it
has a 50% "kill" ratio. As I said, when I do AUTO, it dies, but if I dial
MANUALLY, it dials fine...

Anyone?

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Subject: Re: who "owns" winsock?

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Steve Chesney x4662) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Steve Chesney x4662)
>Subject: who "owns" winsock?
>Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 22:18:13 GMT

>I couldn't find this information in the last FAQ I could locate.

>What organization is responsible for defining the winsock
>specifications and cerifying implementations and applications?


Microsoft defines winsock.  Each manufacturer is responsible for writing it's
own WINSOCK.DLL that works with it's protocol stack.

Brian
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Subject: Re: Cello vs Mosaic

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Dror Matalon)
writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Dror Matalon)
>Subject: Cello vs Mosaic
>Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 17:45:37 GMT

>I've been investigating a variety of winsock tools including WWW
>clients. I'm looking for clients that novice net users could handle without
>too much help.
>I've tried both Cello and Mosaic clients under windows,
>and *I* find Cello a lot more usefull and easy to use.

To be honest, I've switched to Cello now, instead of Mosaic 2a4 - it's just
running quicker, and I never get into the Dreaded Thrashing Syndrome.  Cello
doesn't seem to need as much memory, which I can very easily believe.

My machine is a 486/DX-33 with 4M RAM and a 10M swap file - The only thing I
cannot run is Mosaic...and I can only do that if I shut down EVERYTHING else.

Brian Flynn
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Subject: Re: Trumpet sucks.  Anyone else?

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Marshal Perlman [ARCS]) says:

>Dude... it's free. Be glad you have it.

Trumpet Winsock is *not* free -- it's shareware, with a (very reasonable)
$20 registration fee.

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Subject: Re: WinMosiac a4 Question

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[e-mail] (Shiela Kenney) writes:

> ================
> I understand it's because the new version makes much heavier use of the 32-bit
> applications, and it would be like loading two copies of Windows at once to
> your RAM.  The answer, apparently, is more RAM.  Since I have only 8mgs, I
> haven't dared to try it--everyone reports this type of problem but I get the
> impression theirs are worse, like crashing out every time, etc.

Then you should see what 2.0a4 is like on my 4Meg 386sx-25.  Usually
bearable, but occasionally _crawls_ as the disk thrashes on some long
documents.  Not exactly the best machine to run it on, but there are
plenty of similar computers around whose users are in the same boat.

Kurt Tiedtke
Seaver Academic Computing Services
Pomona College
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Subject: Re: problems w/FTP in WinMosaic

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Rick Crelia) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Rick Crelia)
>Subject: problems w/FTP in WinMosaic
>Date: Thu, 21 Apr 94 08:57:16 EDT

>Has anyone noticed problems using Mosaic for MSWindows to establish FTP links?
>I have not been able to reliably connect to FTP sites that have a link of
>the form
>           ftp://ftp.domainname
>
>For example, ftp://wuarchive.wustl.edu works sometimes, and doesn't at other
>times.  I've tried this on many sites, so it doesn't seem to be site-specific
>problem.  BTW, I'm using the alpha 2 version of WMOS.  Any help would be
>appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>Rick
>


WinMosaic doesn't work properly with some FTP servers (especially MurkWorks
FTPd nlm for Netware - I'm running it here).  I have yet to make Cello choke
on a FTP server - good work, Tom!

Jocelyn
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Subject: latest Trumpet Winsock

What is the latest version of Trumpet Winsock?  The latest that I have
seen is 1.0A, but I have heard (garbled) reports of 1.0b or 1.1a?  Do
these versions exist yet?  Where can I get them?  I'm having a very
specific problem that I hope an upgrade will fix.

Kurt Tiedtke
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Thanks to all for the responses to my question.  I had numerous problems with
mail being bounced because it was not retrieved within 2 days.  I don't know
whether this would always be a problem with SMTP, but it doesn't really
matter. I've switched to POP and have everything running quite smoothly.

Thanks again. Sorry to be so slow in following up.


Leon
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Subject: Re: Problems with FTP on Winsock/SLIP

In article <[e-mail]> "James A. Zaun" <[e-mail]> writes:
>Date: Saturday, 16 April 1994 04:46:57 PST
>From: "James A. Zaun" <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: Problems with FTP on Winsock/SLIP

>In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Leon Nisenfeld)
>wrote:
>>
>>I'm having problems with FTPing on Winsock over SLIP.  I've tried a number of
>>FTP clients with no luck.  Every file a get is corrupted. (I hope this isn't a
>>personal statement about me! :) ) Anyhow, I was wondering if there's a
>>configuration parameter in my winsock setup that may be causing this?

>Well, I know almost nothing of winsock (except for writing a client/server
>messaging system using it), but there are 2 possible causes I can think of.
>1. Use the "bin" command in your FTP to force binary mode.  2. SLIP has poor
>error recovery because it transfers IP datagrams without frame encapsulation.
>So, the only error checking you get is a checksum of the IP header.  If #2
>is your problem you should look into PPP which does provide a FCS (frame
>check sequence) trailer at the cost of a bit more overhead.  -jim

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Thanks for the info.  I was using binary mode, but I think I had an FTP client
that was not behaving.  I've since switched to WinQVT and have not had any
more problems.

Thanks again.

Leon
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Thanks for all who responded to my message, every thing is working perfectly.
I am running mosaic using winsock and it is great. Again thanks for your help.

Ghaleb abdulla

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Subject: Re: IPX/SPX

On Thu, 21 Apr 1994 12:39:10 GMT, Nigel Watson spake thusly:

: Can anyone tell me where to get information on accessing
: IPX and SPX under windows??

Check out an excellent book by Ralph Davis called Windows Network
Programming. Show's you how to do it all!

-- Munster